On Monday, Michael Pollan appeared on NPR’s Fresh Air to talk about avoiding the coming food crisis. (Listen to the podcast.) Earlier this month, in a open letter to the next president, he warned that “the era of cheap and abundant food appears to be drawing to a close.” Fresh Air host Terry Gross asks him for details.

UPDATE: Pollan also made an appearance on WNYC’s The Leonard Lopate Show today. You can subscribe to the podcast here or go to The Leonard Lopate Show archives to catch the episode.

Watch Michael Pollan’s TEDTalk below — and maybe, draw some perspective from James Howard Kunstler’s TEDTalk on the coming oil crisis. (Thanks for the tip, GR!)