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	<title>Comments on: A note on today&#039;s talk posting [Updated 6/24]</title>
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		<title>By: Punit Singh</title>
		<link>http://blog.ted.com/2009/06/23/a_note_on_today/comment-page-1/#comment-2031</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Punit Singh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have used something similar long back with a free software that comes as a bundle with Logitech webcam series.
A similar video of what i am talking about http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7Gn2TyEyHw.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have used something similar long back with a free software that comes as a bundle with Logitech webcam series.<br />
A similar video of what i am talking about <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7Gn2TyEyHw" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7Gn2TyEyHw</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Heidegger</title>
		<link>http://blog.ted.com/2009/06/23/a_note_on_today/comment-page-1/#comment-2032</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Martin Heidegger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am happy to see that the TED team responses to the - maybe too - harsh reaction from the community(me included). I am very happy that the Flash AR could find a big audience, and I am glad he lended his voice.

Explanation for outsiders: AR is really a pushed topic on Flash conferences around the world which is why its treatend so much tension: Everybody knows its not Hughes effort at all.

I don&#039;t want to sound fussy but he stated &quot;unbelievably awesome&quot; to the ARToolkit which is from 2006/07, written in C and can not be used on a browser in contrary to the FLARToolkit which was itself a huge amount of work. Using a ted talk video to make a ordinary video texture(as offered by the tools) are a very simple thing to do - same goes for publishing.

I want to state that I have no personal anger against Chris Hughes. It can happen that you loose your nerves when you are really excited about such a great opportunity and I am sure that he has some great abilities. Pride can be a hard enemy]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am happy to see that the TED team responses to the &#8211; maybe too &#8211; harsh reaction from the community(me included). I am very happy that the Flash AR could find a big audience, and I am glad he lended his voice.</p>
<p>Explanation for outsiders: AR is really a pushed topic on Flash conferences around the world which is why its treatend so much tension: Everybody knows its not Hughes effort at all.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t want to sound fussy but he stated &#8220;unbelievably awesome&#8221; to the ARToolkit which is from 2006/07, written in C and can not be used on a browser in contrary to the FLARToolkit which was itself a huge amount of work. Using a ted talk video to make a ordinary video texture(as offered by the tools) are a very simple thing to do &#8211; same goes for publishing.</p>
<p>I want to state that I have no personal anger against Chris Hughes. It can happen that you loose your nerves when you are really excited about such a great opportunity and I am sure that he has some great abilities. Pride can be a hard enemy</p>
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		<title>By: A TEDster</title>
		<link>http://blog.ted.com/2009/06/23/a_note_on_today/comment-page-1/#comment-2033</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A TEDster]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Chris.  This is far better.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Chris.  This is far better.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonas Grimfelt</title>
		<link>http://blog.ted.com/2009/06/23/a_note_on_today/comment-page-1/#comment-2034</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jonas Grimfelt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[TED is in most cases on the edge when it comes to technology, but AR is far from new technology (in labs already in the 80s-90s) - actually the open-source toolkit was released years ago and is ported to plenty of platforms/languages already. I actually met the guy behind it on my university - cool dude that should have demo it on TED like he did on my uni. I feel this guy is taking some sort of technology leader role, which he is not - nothing new, and I&#039;m chocked that people in the crowd get so impressed. AR is all over the web and YouTube - u been sleeping in the classroom? =)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TED is in most cases on the edge when it comes to technology, but AR is far from new technology (in labs already in the 80s-90s) &#8211; actually the open-source toolkit was released years ago and is ported to plenty of platforms/languages already. I actually met the guy behind it on my university &#8211; cool dude that should have demo it on TED like he did on my uni. I feel this guy is taking some sort of technology leader role, which he is not &#8211; nothing new, and I&#8217;m chocked that people in the crowd get so impressed. AR is all over the web and YouTube &#8211; u been sleeping in the classroom? =)</p>
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		<title>By: Oliver Lardner</title>
		<link>http://blog.ted.com/2009/06/23/a_note_on_today/comment-page-1/#comment-2035</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Oliver Lardner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I can see how a simple case of withholding the full story (&quot;I didn&#039;t actually build this&quot;) could get out of hand and I appreciate that there might be circumstances I&#039;m not aware of. But Chris didn&#039;t &quot;forget&quot; to mention his own name, twice, which is a name far less deserving than the names of the people who actually built the demo or even the name of the port.

FLARToolkit while being great on flash, is actually not a very good example of &quot;Augmented Reality&quot; of which he was touting.

Check this out (look ma, no marker!): http://www.t-immersion.com/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can see how a simple case of withholding the full story (&#8220;I didn&#8217;t actually build this&#8221;) could get out of hand and I appreciate that there might be circumstances I&#8217;m not aware of. But Chris didn&#8217;t &#8220;forget&#8221; to mention his own name, twice, which is a name far less deserving than the names of the people who actually built the demo or even the name of the port.</p>
<p>FLARToolkit while being great on flash, is actually not a very good example of &#8220;Augmented Reality&#8221; of which he was touting.</p>
<p>Check this out (look ma, no marker!): <a href="http://www.t-immersion.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.t-immersion.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: No Dice</title>
		<link>http://blog.ted.com/2009/06/23/a_note_on_today/comment-page-1/#comment-2036</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[No Dice]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m sorry, but a huge majority of the community that this technology applies to already knew about the toolkit.  There is little excuse for Chris&#039; &quot;part&quot; in this, which is nominal at best.  His contribution was tracking down an organizer and forcing them to acknowledge something that already existed.

He should not have been invited to speak on it at that very same conference.  Indeed, had he been forthcoming with the organizer in that he had done absolutely no original work at all, I sincerely doubt that he would have been invited to speak at all.  Reading his own blog entry (at http://spazout.com/ted_2009_and_why_it_was_the_best_thing_ever) it is clear that he approached this as an opportunity to sell himself, more than as an opportunity to share the technology.  Quotes:
&quot;Is today the day that I build something cool enough to get my [redacted] invited to TED?&quot;
&quot;something that I would tell a TED organizer in the hope that I could pique their interest in seeing a demo of my work.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry, but a huge majority of the community that this technology applies to already knew about the toolkit.  There is little excuse for Chris&#8217; &#8220;part&#8221; in this, which is nominal at best.  His contribution was tracking down an organizer and forcing them to acknowledge something that already existed.</p>
<p>He should not have been invited to speak on it at that very same conference.  Indeed, had he been forthcoming with the organizer in that he had done absolutely no original work at all, I sincerely doubt that he would have been invited to speak at all.  Reading his own blog entry (at <a href="http://spazout.com/ted_2009_and_why_it_was_the_best_thing_ever" rel="nofollow">http://spazout.com/ted_2009_and_why_it_was_the_best_thing_ever</a>) it is clear that he approached this as an opportunity to sell himself, more than as an opportunity to share the technology.  Quotes:<br />
&#8220;Is today the day that I build something cool enough to get my [redacted] invited to TED?&#8221;<br />
&#8220;something that I would tell a TED organizer in the hope that I could pique their interest in seeing a demo of my work.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: No Dice</title>
		<link>http://blog.ted.com/2009/06/23/a_note_on_today/comment-page-1/#comment-2037</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[No Dice]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[More quotes:
&quot;In my mind, I&#039;d pretty much convinced myself that I was gonna rock this one.&quot;(not particularly incriminating, but he definitely had a lot of confidence in someone else&#039;s technology)

&quot;Life goals:
Get Invited to TED - done
Speak at TED - done&quot;

Honestly, the best course of action is to note clearly before clicking on the video exactly how much work he did.  Such as &quot;This is a presentation of existing work at (x) using (y) toolkits.&quot;  Follow that up with inviting the *original* authors to TED to make a real presentation to replace his, and it could be considered a professional resolution.

Editing in some &quot;attributions&quot; which don&#039;t clearly show that he presented someone else&#039;s work is hardly sufficient.  Had he done this at an academic institution, he&#039;d be up against a plagiarism tribunal, facing possible failure and expulsion.  But apparently TED isn&#039;t that concerned.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More quotes:<br />
&#8220;In my mind, I&#8217;d pretty much convinced myself that I was gonna rock this one.&#8221;(not particularly incriminating, but he definitely had a lot of confidence in someone else&#8217;s technology)</p>
<p>&#8220;Life goals:<br />
Get Invited to TED &#8211; done<br />
Speak at TED &#8211; done&#8221;</p>
<p>Honestly, the best course of action is to note clearly before clicking on the video exactly how much work he did.  Such as &#8220;This is a presentation of existing work at (x) using (y) toolkits.&#8221;  Follow that up with inviting the *original* authors to TED to make a real presentation to replace his, and it could be considered a professional resolution.</p>
<p>Editing in some &#8220;attributions&#8221; which don&#8217;t clearly show that he presented someone else&#8217;s work is hardly sufficient.  Had he done this at an academic institution, he&#8217;d be up against a plagiarism tribunal, facing possible failure and expulsion.  But apparently TED isn&#8217;t that concerned.</p>
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		<title>By: Ralph Hauwert</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ralph Hauwert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As one of the instigators of todays &quot;fuzz&quot; about Chris his presentation, I&#039;d like to follow up on this correction publicly. My issue doesn&#039;t reside only with the fact that Chris conveniently forgets to mention the projects which are about 95% of the work, but does remember his own name twice.

It&#039;s not only that he says &quot;I wrote&quot;, &quot;We&#039;ve managed&quot;, and &quot;I&#039;m doing this with a browser and Flash&quot;, as well as the fact that he says &quot;We&#039;ve ported ARToolkit to Flash&quot;.

It&#039;s not his first blog report on his TED experience, where he points out the route of cornering a TED Curator to show him &quot;his&quot; awesome demo.

It&#039;s not the fact that his awesome demo is factually a modified tutorial, which counts up for the remaining 4% of work, leaving about 1% to him.

It&#039;s all of that combined that paint an image of someone overly eager (maybe in the spur of the moment) to be on a stage and even to this point in time refusing to acknowledge his blatant rip off. 1% of work ?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As one of the instigators of todays &#8220;fuzz&#8221; about Chris his presentation, I&#8217;d like to follow up on this correction publicly. My issue doesn&#8217;t reside only with the fact that Chris conveniently forgets to mention the projects which are about 95% of the work, but does remember his own name twice.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not only that he says &#8220;I wrote&#8221;, &#8220;We&#8217;ve managed&#8221;, and &#8220;I&#8217;m doing this with a browser and Flash&#8221;, as well as the fact that he says &#8220;We&#8217;ve ported ARToolkit to Flash&#8221;.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not his first blog report on his TED experience, where he points out the route of cornering a TED Curator to show him &#8220;his&#8221; awesome demo.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not the fact that his awesome demo is factually a modified tutorial, which counts up for the remaining 4% of work, leaving about 1% to him.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s all of that combined that paint an image of someone overly eager (maybe in the spur of the moment) to be on a stage and even to this point in time refusing to acknowledge his blatant rip off. 1% of work ?</p>
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		<title>By: Blake Callens</title>
		<link>http://blog.ted.com/2009/06/23/a_note_on_today/comment-page-1/#comment-2039</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Blake Callens]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The original video is still on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CRI3X0pjaU]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The original video is still on YouTube:</p>
<p><span class='embed-youtube' style='text-align:center; display: block;'><iframe class='youtube-player' type='text/html' width='586' height='360' src='http://www.youtube.com/embed/6CRI3X0pjaU?version=3&#038;rel=1&#038;fs=1&#038;showsearch=0&#038;showinfo=1&#038;iv_load_policy=1&#038;wmode=transparent' frameborder='0'></iframe></span></p>
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		<title>By: Pierre Rossouw</title>
		<link>http://blog.ted.com/2009/06/23/a_note_on_today/comment-page-1/#comment-2040</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pierre Rossouw]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Someone likened this to slapping a TED logo on Google and talking about search without mentioning that someone else made the engine. Not acceptable.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone likened this to slapping a TED logo on Google and talking about search without mentioning that someone else made the engine. Not acceptable.</p>
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