Provocation: Roundup of TED2010, Session 5

Posted by: Emily McManus


Starting the session, former CIA operative Valerie Plame Wilson calls for the complete elimination of nuclear weapons. “It’s a wake-up call we need.”


Michael Sandel: “We need to rediscover the lost art of democratic argument.”


Christopher “m00t” Poole: “I asked 4chan what I should say at TED. And I got 12,000 responses in about 24 hrs. But I can’t read to you anything they said.”


Kevin Bales: Ask ourselves: Are we willing to live in a world of slavery? #TED


Chris Anderson introduces Steward Brand and Mark Z. Jacobson to debate on nuclear power. His rules for the audience? “Cheering, booing, hissing are allowed.” Before and after the debate, the audience votes: how many are for nuclear power? How many against?


All photos: TED / James Duncan Davidson

Comments (13)

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  • Joshua Tung commented on Mar 7 2010

    upload m00t please?

  • Ben Lieberman commented on Feb 22 2010

    m00t now

  • Sean Moore commented on Feb 19 2010

    upload m00t please!

  • a nonymouse commented on Feb 13 2010

    This is no longer a request.

  • Roger Guerard commented on Feb 13 2010

    moot… nao…

  • mo th commented on Feb 13 2010

    upload m00t please.

  • Konata Izumi commented on Feb 12 2010

    m00t please. the rest can wait,,,

    realistically he’s probably the most influential one in session 5

    edit: nvm wasn’t nearly long enough / didn’t list enough of 4chans exploits

  • Patrick McGorrill commented on Feb 12 2010

    Upload the m00t talk ASAP. Please. I want that talk. The internet wants that talk.

    edit: teh internet wants, teh internet haz: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtfoPoLJIrc
    edit #2: Whoa, ok. “This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by TED.” An interesting move considering the talk was largely about the free exchange of information.

    • Pece Kocovski commented on Feb 16 2010

      Maybe they can game it as they did the Times 100 thing so it appears on TED quicker?

  • Addison Fischer commented on Feb 12 2010

    (1of2) In the debate between sustainable (solar and wind) vs nuclear energy, the most important distinction was not adequately explored.

    The byproducts of nuclear reactors comprise waste that will haunt mankind for tens of thousands of years. It must be continuously guarded with vigilance, care, and understanding. The prospect of doing this for so long seems hopeless.

    Reflecting on only the past 4000 years of world history — from Mesopotamia to the present — one sees the rise and fall of civilizations. It is naive to assume enlightened stability will persist anywhere in the world for even the next 10000, a fraction of what is required for safe storage.

    Future civilizations may not understand how to look after nuclear waste, lose ability to do so, lose track of it, or use it as a weapon to pursue fanatical ideological, political, or genocidal ends — without understanding (or caring) about the ultimate and irrevocable toxicity that would be unleashed.
    -> 2of2

  • Addison Fischer commented on Feb 12 2010

    (2of2) Some nuclear advocates suggest that a technology may someday be developed to dispose of reactor waste — but even after 50 years this has not yet happened.

    An argument against sustainable energies is that delivery is not uniform. It is within present understanding to buffer these inconstancies using energy storage e.g., batteries (buffering over time) or a supergrid linking locales (buffering over geography).

    Even if we grant the unlikely assumption that the infrastructure cost for sustainable energy is greater than nuclear, its cost will decrease exponentially as production and demand increase. Also most estimates for nuclear energy do not account for the full life-cycle – which should include millennia of waste management.

    If we widely deploy nuclear reactors, then all future generations will curse us forever for deliberately and knowingly leaving them an unmanageable heritage of toxic nuclear waste.

  • Liz McLellan commented on Feb 12 2010

    So wish I could have been there…