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		<title>Debate: Erik Brynjolfsson and Robert J. Gordon at TED2013</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2013 19:28:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Thu-Huong Ha</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[TED Curator Chris Anderson opened this morning&#8217;s first session, Progress Enigma, with a provocative question: What is the future of work? He asked the audience: According to your worldview, is the growth of innovation accelerating? Not surprisingly, the overwhelming majority of the audience answered yes. But is the answer so simple? Economist Robert J. Gordon [&#8230;]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=blog.ted.com&#038;blog=14795620&#038;post=70567&#038;subd=tedconfblog&#038;ref=&#038;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
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<p>TED Curator Chris Anderson opened this morning&#8217;s first session, Progress Enigma, with a provocative question: What is the future of work? He asked the audience: According to your worldview, is the growth of innovation accelerating? Not surprisingly, the overwhelming majority of the audience answered yes. But is the answer so simple? Economist <a href="http://faculty-web.at.northwestern.edu/economics/gordon/indexmsie.html" target="_blank">Robert J. Gordon</a> followed Chris&#8217; question with an argument that economic growth is slowing down for the majority of the population, and may even start reversing. <a href="http://ebusiness.mit.edu/erik/" target="_blank">Erik Brynjolfsson</a> then gave a talk arguing that income may be falling, but creative productivity and innovation are as strong as ever, it&#8217;s just that people are providing free services (like TED Talks!). Chris then invited both speakers on stage to debate growth and progress.</p>
<p>Gordon began the debate by asking Brynjolfsson about the value of some of the innovations he mentioned in his talk, like Deep Blue and Baxter the Robot, which are single-purpose machines. Would one individual computer, asked Gordon, ever be able to replace humans in totality? The purpose isn&#8217;t to just produce more stuff, answered Brynjolfsson, but for humans to compliment new technology. Indeed, this is still true innovation. But as Gordon pointed out, the real problem that this technology poses is putting people out of employment.</p>
<p>Chris then posed the question to Brynjolfsson: Are you under an illusion that the curve of growth is moving upward, while Gordon is seeing a more realistic S-curve? Brynjolfsson countered: Gordon is under an illusion that occurs often from sitting atop the S-curve, that you can&#8217;t see the rest of it. In other words, we can&#8217;t foresee the things we haven&#8217;t made yet. Brynjolfsson said, &#8220;Two hundred years ago, Gordon&#8217;s grandfather might have said we&#8217;ve reached the pinnacle of horseshoe making, we can&#8217;t make it any better,&#8221; and that would have been the end of that innovation. But of course innovation wasn&#8217;t over with that invention&#8217;s progress; we simply can&#8217;t foresee the things we haven&#8217;t made yet. Gordon asked again about the purpose of all this progress, asking: &#8220;What good is a world in which we can listening to a bunch of free music, but no one has any jobs?&#8221; The crowd went wild.</p>
<p>Indeed, the two agreed that the main issue we face is that growth isn&#8217;t happening for the bottom 99 percent. Brynjolfsson argued that we are innovating at an insane rate, while Gordon&#8217;s consistent response was, What&#8217;s the point, if people don&#8217;t have jobs? Chris posed the question to the audience: Would you rather live for a year without the Internet, but without plumbing, or with plumbing and without Internet? Yet after an undoubtedly exciting debate, at the close the audience&#8217;s vote remained 6-1 in favor of accelerated growth.</p>
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		<title>Is growth over? Robert J. Gordon at TED2013</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2013 19:12:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ben Lillie</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Could US economic growth be over? That&#8217;s the provocative question that economist Robert J. Gordon begins with. And it&#8217;s a big question. He points to travel: In 1900 travel was via the open buggy, at 1% the speed of sound. Sixty years later we travelled at 80% of the speed of sound in a Boeing [&#8230;]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=blog.ted.com&#038;blog=14795620&#038;post=70124&#038;subd=tedconfblog&#038;ref=&#038;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
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<p style="text-align:left;">Could US economic growth be over? That&#8217;s the provocative question that <a href="http://faculty-web.at.northwestern.edu/economics/gordon/indexmsie.html">economist Robert J. Gordon</a> begins with. And it&#8217;s a big question. He points to travel: In 1900 travel was via the open buggy, at 1% the speed of sound. Sixty years later we travelled at 80% of the speed of sound in a Boeing 707. And since then, at a consumer level, we haven&#8217;t learned to go any faster.</p>
<p>According to Gordon, this points to a possibility: that the explosive growth over the last two centuries was the exception, and we&#8217;re headed back to a time when much slower growth can be expected. &#8220;It&#8217;s possible US economic growth could be over,&#8221; he says to a fascinated but wary audience.</p>
<p>He identifies several headwinds &#8212; serious problems we face that impede growth. These are:</p>
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<li>Demographics</li>
<li>Education</li>
<li>Debt</li>
<li>Inequality</li>
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<p>To push against these headwinds, says Gordon, we need innovation. If innovation continues at the same pace as before, those headwinds will cut growth in half, he suggests. If that&#8217;s true, we will need new developments to drive the economy. And this is where the debate comes in &#8212; are there innovations on the horizon that will have as big an impact as the shift from the horse-and-buggy to the Boeing 707? As evidence he shows a graph of growth in the United Kingdom and the United States for the last 800 years. For most of that time the economy grew at a predicable 0.2%. It&#8217;s only in the last two centuries that the growth has been 2% per year. Now, that growth rate is in decline.</p>
<p>So, what if economic growth turned out to be just a two-century phenomenon? If growth slows down, Americans in the future cannot expect to double the living standard of their parents. Gordon walks through the problems caused by each of his headwinds.</p>
<p><strong>Demographics</strong>: &#8220;It&#8217;s a truism that standard of living increases faster than productivity <em>only</em> if we&#8217;re working more hours per person.&#8221; We got that gift midcentury when women entered the workforce in large numbers. That&#8217;s an event that can&#8217;t be repeated.</p>
<p><strong>Education</strong>: There are huge problems in the world of education, starting with the fact that the inflation in the cost of college dwarfs that in medical care. In the United States, we currently have a trillion dollars in student debt. On top of that, the college completion rate is 15% lower than in Canada.</p>
<p><strong>Debt:</strong> As is well known, this is huge. It will only be slowed by, &#8220;Faster growth in taxes or slower growth in entitlements, the only way that&#8217;s going to stop.&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>Inequality</strong>: Growth of income of bottom 99% has been half a point smaller than the average. &#8220;All the rest went to the top 1%.&#8221; For most of us, current growth is 0.8%.</p>
<p>So, can innovation come to the rescue? Because of these headwinds, that innovation will need to come up with even better things than in the past, not just keep pace. Gordon lists some examples of why that will be difficult.</p>
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<li>From 1875 to 1929 we went from gaslight to electricity; from something polluting and difficult to read by to what we know now &#8212; a huge increase in productivity. Again, this can&#8217;t be repeated.</li>
<li>Electricity was also part of the liberation of women. Before the washing machine, the refrigerator and running water, women (and at the time it was women) had to dedicate several days to washing, grocery shopping and carrying water. That liberation produced a huge economic boon.</li>
<li>The internal combustion engine  In the late 19th century, America relied on transportation by horse, now we use motor vehicles. That transition happend incredibly fast &#8212; ownership of cars 0-90% in 30 years. That alone released the land that had been used to feed the horses &#8212; fully one quarter of agricultural land at the time.</li>
<li>Urban sanitation infrastructure. By 1929 almost everybody in America had running water, which did an enormous amount to cut down on disease rates. In the first half of the 20th century the rate of improvement in life expectancy was far more than in the second half. Gordon points to that as a major challenge to the techno-optimists.</li>
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<p>What about the electronic age? Gordon argues that the advances are just not as significant. Imagine this: You have to choose everything invented before 2007, but don&#8217;t get an iphone, or you get everything invented later, but have no flushable toilet. Which would you choose?</p>
<p>Gordon finishes with his major question: Can we now match what the inventors of the early 20th century achieved?</p>
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		<title>Progress Enigma: The speakers in Session 1 of TED2013</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2013 13:15:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Emily McManus</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[As we assembled TED2013&#8242;s lineup of speakers from around the world, talked with the TED brain trust, and listened to online conversations, one theme emerged: What is the future of work? Technology and new business practices are, in many ways, putting an end to the classic &#8220;good job,&#8221; the kind that millions of people once [&#8230;]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=blog.ted.com&#038;blog=14795620&#038;post=69791&#038;subd=tedconfblog&#038;ref=&#038;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-70721" alt="Session1_ProgressEnigma" src="http://tedconfblog.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/session1_progressenigma1.gif?w=900"   />As we assembled TED2013&#8242;s lineup of speakers from around the world, talked with the TED brain trust, and listened to online conversations, one theme emerged: What is the future of work? Technology and new business practices are, in many ways, putting an end to the classic &#8220;good job,&#8221; the kind that millions of people once moved to Detroit and cities around the world to get. In this session, we&#8217;ll hear from a roboticist, a politician &#8230; and two economists who do not agree on where we&#8217;re headed. This session proved a fascinating look at where we go from here.</p>
<p>Here are the speakers in this session. Click on their name to read a full recap of their talk:</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">A former two-term governor of Michigan, <a href="http://blog.ted.com/2013/02/26/how-about-creating-a-national-energy-policy-jennifer-granholm-at-ted2013/">Jennifer Granholm</a> makes the case for empowering states to create jobs through a Clean Energy Jobs Race to the Top.</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;"><a href="http://blog.ted.com/2013/02/26/is-growth-over-robert-j-gordon-at-ted2013/">Robert J. Gordon</a> is among the most influential macroeconomists in the world. And the big picture he sees is not altogether rosy.</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;"><a href="http://blog.ted.com/2013/02/26/race-with-the-machines-erik-brynjolfsson-at-ted2013/">Erik Brynjolfsson</a> examines the effects of information technologies on business strategy, productivity and employment.</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">What happens when Robert J. Gordon and Erk Brynjolfsson debate? <a href="http://blog.ted.com/2013/02/26/debate-erik-brynjolfsson-and-robert-j-gordon-at-ted2013/">Read here</a>.</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">Born in Havana, Cuba, <a href="http://blog.ted.com/2013/02/26/the-musicians-musician-pedrito-martinez-at-ted2013/" target="_blank">Pedrito Martinez</a> spent his youth steeped in rumba and the music of the Santería religion. His music had become an intoxicating blend of Cuban tradition and African-American styles.</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;"><a href="http://blog.ted.com/2013/02/26/robots-as-part-of-daily-life-rodney-brooks-at-ted2013/" target="_blank">Rodney Brooks</a> builds robots based on biological principles of movement and reasoning. The goal: a robot who can figure things out. Get ready to meet Baxter.</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">The founder and CEO of Romotive, <a href="http://blog.ted.com/2013/02/26/make-your-smartphone-a-personal-robot-keller-rinaudo-at-ted2013/">Keller Rinaudo</a> creates robots that use smart phones and are designed for interaction.</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;"><a href="http://blog.ted.com/2013/02/26/walk-with-me-talk-with-me-nilofer-merchant-at-ted2013/">Nilofer Merchant</a> thinks deeply about the frameworks, strategies and cultural values of great businesses new and old, large and small.</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;"><a href="http://wp.me/p10512-ihS"> Bono</a>, the lead singer of U2, uses his celebrity to fight for social justice worldwide: to end hunger, poverty and disease, especially in Africa. His nonprofit ONE raises awareness via media, policy and calls to action.</p>
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